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Zoltán Bugnyár (hírTV): Prime Minister, we’re waiting for your speech, and I don’t know what we’ll be talking about. What will your main message be for those here and for Europe?
I’ll tell you that later.
Zoltán Bugnyár (hírTV): Recently you’ve met a number of European leaders who think like you, but who aren’t members of the Patriots for Europe party family, such as the AfD president. Do you see them, for example, strengthening the party family, or could the Patriots’ family expand in the near future?
At the moment we’re swimming in a big river. In European and Western politics today there seem to be two big camps opposing each other: one is the globalists, and the other the sovereigntists – the patriots. One wants to build a federation, wants to build a world government, wants to centralise. The other side loves its homeland and doesn’t want to give up its rights – it’s happy to cooperate, but it won’t give up national powers, it doesn’t want federalism, and it doesn’t want centralisation. In America, we’ve won – there the sovereigntists, the patriots have won. In Europe this battle is still going on, so sooner or later the political camps will be organised along these lines. Currently the federalists are still in the majority, the globalists are more numerous; but we’re gradually organising the patriots’ camp. Some of the leaders of the Patriots’ party who are speaking here are people who, in some way or another, will at some point in the future be part of a great sovereign European entity. At the moment this is a technical matter that we don’t need to deal with. The important thing now is to align ideas, programmes, views on Europe, national interests. Now we’re at that stage ; we don’t need more than a year or two and we’ll be in the majority, we’ll take Brussels, and we’ll transform the whole European Union. And we won’t let the Brussels bureaucrats dictate terms to the nation states. This will happen. This here in France today is an important stage in that process, in that future victory. In January, or at the beginning of the year, we were in Spain; now we’re here, and then we’ll go on to Italy, and organise Europe. This is in Hungary’s interest. Hungary cannot defend itself on its own against Brussels: we need allies, and the bigger the better. We need the French. Without the French, we cannot get Hungary off the Brussels torture rack.
László Mészáros (M1): What can Hungary add to this? What value, what contribution?
First of all, in this patriotic world, now we’re at the helm. The Czechs will come, I hope, and the French are very close. Hungary will add an example, and I’ll talk about that here, as you’ve already elicited it from me. I’ll talk about how we’ve done it in Hungary. And others can do it too. Hungary’s the proof, the testimony, as they say here – the final argument that what we’re talking about isn’t hot air, not wishful thinking, but a reality, a possibility. One can have Christian, national, conservative governance; and countries can remain in their own national worlds, dealing with their own national interests, not subordinate to any globalist financial, business or political power.
Zoltán Bugnyár (hírTV): Recently the Dutch government collapsed, in part due to Geert Wilders. Can we expect there to be another patriot in the European Council?
Even now, if they could, at every Council meeting the globalists would string me up as soon as look at me. That’s not possible, because there are several who agree with us and regularly stand up for Hungary – and I always stand up for them. This alliance is being built, this camaraderie is building in Brussels.
